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Isn't Yasu Battler, Jessica, George, Maria, and Ange's aunt/uncle and step-cousin. should that be added.

Should Yasu's death in Requiem be included in the article when s/he is shot in the face by Kyrie

Yup. --DQ13 ~ Did we change the world, or did the world change us? 19:05, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

The main pic of this page is not Yasu it is actually the doll from the 2AM prank scene in Ep 7

ImageEdit

I could either put the Shannon, Beatrice, and Kanon sprites together in one pic or I could put what Yasu looked like when s/he solved the epitath in Ep 7 where s/he had the appearance of Beato the Elder

Lambda's Diary Edit

Was that Yasu, or was it Eva-Beatrice? If the anime was correct on this scene, Lambda was also the one that approved of Eva's ascension to Golden Witch. --DQ13 ~ Nothing amazing ever happens here. 18:46, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Yasu's gender identity Edit

I was revieving the End of the Golden Witch episode and I think Yasu's gender identity can be confirmed, he is a male. I observed this from the Nasuhi's conversation with Yasu as not only she believe the speaker to be male but she also refered to him as "man from 19 years ago".

So I said (painfully) in blue that "Because Nasuhi has recieved and actually raise Yasu for one year after his birth, she must be aware of Yasu's gender identity and as she refer to him as "man" from 19 years ago, it is already conclude that Yasu/Nasuhi's child is male"

Any objection?

e22big

First Natsuhi barely raised Yasu as she pushed her off a cliff very soon after reciveing her. Also though Natsuhi refers to Yasu as a man she also says she is unsure about weather it was a man or not. We have seen that Yasu is able to manipulate and change her voice which she could have been doing. Also she may have just wanted to mess with Natsuhi. Or a more popular theory is that Battler was the real caller after figuring out who Yasu really is and he had to make himself a male because he obviously could not imitate a girl. So the argument goes both ways and nothing can be stated as fact.

AsukaHanyuYay 00:33, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Natsuhi said that she's unsure before the child revealed it's identity. After that Natsuhi seems to have no doubts about child's gender anymore(she doesn't suspect Erika once Genji says that she's a girl). And even if Natsuhi didn't know childs gender, how Yasu can know about it? Why she wasn't presenting herself as the child from 19 years ago? Why it needs to be a man?
Battlers theory is a little wierd, because in the first call Natsuhi is unable to say wether it's male or female basing on the voice, while his voice is obviously masculine. - Anon33 05:17, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

I think it's reasonably obvious that Yasu was born male (for this and a bunch of other reasons -- not the least that Yasu's injury makes a lot more sense for a male), but I also think that the unreveal of Lion's gender was deliberate enough, and the evidence deliberately vague enough, that it's best to just leave it ambiguous.  --RuriRuriRuri (talk) 05:36, July 7, 2014 (UTC)

Land Edit

Is someone aware whether the rumors about the man from 19 years ago appearance in the Land are true or not?

I've never heard of this rumor but it doesn't really matter since Land never came to be. Ryukushi07 did say that Land of the Golden Witch's plot was divided up and parts of it were put into other episodes. So most likely the idea for the man from 19 years ago was from land and it was recycled into End AsukaHanyuYay 18:10, May 19, 2012 (UTC)

First appearance Edit

Wasn't Yasu's first appearance in Banquet after Beatrice's illusion was denied? I think it's especially evident in manga. - Anon33 19:48, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Name changeEdit

Should we change all mentions of the name Yasu to Sayo since that is her confirmed name and we no longer really have to use the nickname given to her? DirkingtonStrider (talk) 00:30, April 18, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe, but I think so many people are used to "Yasu" that it might bring misunderstandings. We can just use both as well. -Anon33 (talk)

Where was this confirmed? 24.11.161.147 22:16, July 27, 2014 (UTC)Lucid

Can you read the page, please? Both for Lion and Yasu. You can find answers there. -Anon33 (talk) 18:36, July 28, 2014 (UTC)

Sex and Gender Edit

To avoid confusion, we should make sure that the distinction between Sex and Gender are made. Sex is something you're born with. Gender is your personal identity. So, in this case, Sayo's sex is male, but gender is female (except for Kanon and Lion). It is common practice to refer to a transgendered individual as whatever gender pronoun they are presenting as at that time, so the section where it is talking about Sayo being shot by Kyrie should change to female pronouns instead of male, as she is Beatrice and/or Sayo at that time, not Kanon/Lion. 

I'm assuming you mean on Kanon's page where we have the truth of Rokkenjima because I just changed that and also I'm not meaning to sound mean but it's not "transgendered individual" it's just transgender individual the -ed is unnessecary 18:59, April 24, 2014 (UTC)

On this confusion of sex & gender, can we please list Sayo's gender as female? DMAB is not a gender, it is merely a way of denoting that someone was assigned male at birth. Also can we please move this page out of the 'androgynous' category and into the 'female' category? Alfabites (Talk) 17:53, August 7, 2014 (UTC)

No, we can't. Sorry. It's a complicated issue on which people have different opinions and we can't satisfy everyone at the same time. Her profile only states "born male, raised female", nothing about gender really since it's up to interpretation. -Anon33 (talk) 18:08, August 7, 2014 (UTC)

Stop trying to vandalise this wiki, please. Find something better to do. Our admins are trying hard not to offend anyone. By vandalising wiki you are making it less possible for us to take your claims seriously. Please consider that. I blocked pages while you were busy with my friend. Thanks for having fun with him and letting me do this.-Anon33 (talk) 00:05, August 8, 2014 (UTC)

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